Sep 122013

Question by Me: Why it is that awareness can transcend the relative in meditation and consciousness can’t?
I understand that awareness absorbs the qualities of the absolute field of existence and returns them to the mediator but why cannot consciousness transcend and witness the experience?
Monk, thank you. I remember you now, when I was new in the Zen Mountain Monastery you had given a talk on transcendence and the laws of Karma. Could you consider giving me some guidance when the timing is right?
Philosophyangel, is it possible you got things mixed up a bit. Awareness and consciousness are inter dependent but are entirely different entities in their own right.
Lucid dreaming is a lesser degree of the dreaming sleep state. You could study Cosmic Consciousness, the fourth state of consciousness available to all. It remains awake in all three states of wakening, dreaming and deep sleep states of consciousness; all inclusive. Three higher states of consciousness are also possible.
The three guans of Nature can only give direction to consciousness not awareness. Thank you for answering.

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Answer by River Euphrates
If it could, it wouldn’t be consciousness.

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  2 Responses to “Why it is that awareness can transcend the relative in meditation and consciousness can’t?”

  1. Consciousness is awareness. In deep meditation, awareness can shift from a dual to nondual “state of consciousness” in which consciousness is pure, “luminous” and in and of itself without sense of subject, object, or usual sense experience. In the practice of lucid dream, perfect awareness or presence can be experienced and translated into waking consciousness–or some people are able to attain this through meditation and claim to permanent;y maintian this condition condition in waking, active life.

    I do not understand the second question. Awareness doesn’t “absorb” anything. Awareness is consciousness. Consciousness (as an Absolute) is Existence and is Experience. Look up the concept of Satchidananda.

  2. Me,

    Consciousness is of and is made up with the entire relative impermanent field of existence. Awareness is in the container of individual consciousness while active in any living thing. Upon death, the body, mind and consciousness die while awareness transcends the relative and returns to the absolute none changing field of existence. It could be likened to an eternal ocean of awareness in Being. Both the relative and the absolute are two aspect of the one wholeness. One cannot be without the other. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi wrote very clearly of these two aspects in his book Science of Being and Art of living. This One was under his wing for far too short of time. Christopher Hills, scientist internationally renowned Master of Consciousness and a true Yogi of the New Age, wrote the book Nuclear Evolution among 30 others on this subject.

    In successful deep meditation awareness caries the qualities of love, joy and contentment back to the conscious mind to be played out in one’s life. Besides clarity of vision mediation serves no other purpose.

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