by bunnygoth
Question by D.Chen: Why do hermits, mystics, philosophers, monastics get the short end of the stick?
In terms of being “disciplined” or reprimanded by both secular authorities and religious hierarchies?
The Daoist Sage, the Christian Monk, the Jewish Kabbalist, the Sufi Mystic, the Buddhist itinerant, and even the noble Materialist/Atheist philosopher (Epicurus comes to mind) usually seem to suffer badly throughout history at the hands of the holders of power – even if the holders of said power may publicly espouse similar beliefs.
Why do you think that is the case?
Best answer:
Answer by Seth N
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing…
Give your answer to this question below!
Secular powers don’t like having to admit that they aren’t the ONLY authority around.
because we are doomed to that fate. we change thought and authority doesn’t want people’s thought to change because it might take away the power of the authority.
Because an independent thinker does not belong to anyone which makes him totally unpredictable. He cannot be manipulated because he doesn’t care for the same things as a “normal” person does. He is a lion among sheep. Dangerous!
i think that people don’t like to put much thought into things. i believe in God and Jesus, and i believe in different buddhist beliefs. a lot of philosophers believes in these ideas as well they just have a deeper meaning and different path to end at these conslusions and i guess people think its the devil going about it this way if its not in their simple mind set. and if somebody is all about the literal and that everything can be scientifically explained , i dont think they are as intellegent as the philosphers who thinks with an open mind and uses every bit of it. so to me people are opened minded to new ideas and that is usually for the extremist which most of the people on this earth tend to be. jesus spoke with great philosophy as did the others you mentioned and if we would follow more of their train of thought the world probably would be better off than it is now.
Dear Brother Chen
You are right in stating this fact of subjugating the Religious Mystics by the Rulers as well as the Religious Leaders of that period owing to the reason they themselves sidelined their faith for their own personal benefits and power.
Mystic Saints are the True Lovers of God Almighty with extreme love towards His Creation too. They cannot stand the wrongdoings prevailing in their period. While they do not lead or sponsor a group, they always protest the wrong doings through their own personal behavior and actions, which is suppressed easily by the wrongdoers and rulers.
Sometimes they are completely misunderstood by others and they coolly take the sufferings inflicted on them and even give away their life without uttering a single word of complaint. Their understanding and belief is that Almighty God All Knower does every thing through the people and as such, they just surrender to them without complaining. There are many true stories in this regard in Sufi books, which serve as a moral to us.
There was a Sufi saint and he was walking, at the same time the police was chasing a thief and assuming he is the one they caught him and started beating. The saint did not utter a word in protest or saving himself. A known person seeing it reprimanded the police and told them about his identity. The police felt sorry and begged for his pardon.
Another story is of a saint who saw the owner of a bullock cart lashing the animal and the Sufi just screamed with pain. People saw that his back had the lashing marks on it.
There are several such true incidents and facts which I cannot write down now for lack of time.
These Godly persons are the selected ones by Almighty God and there are classification and grades among that group. Some are selected ones right from their birth, some are qualified and literate and owing to their true quest and sacrifice in search of truth, Allah blesses them and reveals part of the truth and they cannot bear it and they become insane and they are called Majzoob always drowned in love towards Almighty and cannot take care of self.
Among them selected are few for the higher cadre and they are well educated. They sustain the revelation of the truth from Allah and they are the Teachers and guides to humanity. They are called Awliya Allah Friends of God Almighty. Many Miracles happen either by their own will or from God Almighty’s will without their consent in their honor.
I believe there are such personalities in every religion Blessed by God Almighty. There too are fakes and we need to be careful about it.