Question by Papa: The Cross: Christian Banner or Pagan Relic?
Hislop writes: That mystic Tau was marked in baptism on the foreheads of those initiated into the Mysteries. . . . The Vestal virgins of Pagan Rome wore it suspended from their necklaces, as the nuns do now. . . . There is hardly a Pagan tribe where the cross has not been found.
and the Tau, “†”, the sign of the cross, the indisputable sign of Tammuz, the false Messiah, was everywhere substituted in its stead. (The Two Babylons, 1959, p. 198-199, 204-205)
What does the worship of Tammuz have to do with the sign of the cross? According to historian Alexander Hislop, Tammuz was intimately associated with the Babylonian mystery religions begun by the worship of Nimrod, Semiramis, and her illegitimate son, Horus. The original form of the Babylonian letter T was † (tau), identical to the crosses used today by so called Christians.
This was the initial of Tammuz. Referring to this sign of Tammuz during the 3rd dynasty of Ur (c. 2112—c. 2004 BC) in the city of Umma (modern Tell Jokha), the marriage of the god was dramatically celebrated in February—March, Umma’s Month of the Festival of Tammuz.
Today it is celebrated as the spring Lent, the pagan holiday of so called Christians who also celebrate the Madi Gras, and the fall festival of “The Day of The Dead.”
As in Ezekiel 8:14 So He brought me to the door of the north gate of the LORD’s house; and to my dismay, women were sitting there weeping for Tammuz.
The New Encyclopedia Britannica writes in the article “Tammuz”: “. . . in Mesopotamian religion, god of fertility embodying the powers for new life in nature in the spring” (Vol. 11, p. 532).
This “nature god” was associated with two yearly festivals, one held in late winter and the other in early spring.
Many of the comfortable, familiar customs and traditions of this world have, indeed, been borrowed from rank paganism and have nothing at all to do with true Christianity.
From its simplicity of form, the cross has been used as a symbol and as an ornament, from the dawn of man’s civilization. Various objects, dating from periods long anterior to the Christian era, have been found, marked with crosses of different designs, in almost every part of the old world. India, Syria, Persia and Egypt have all yielded numberless examples, while numerous instances, dating from the later Stone Age to Christian times, have been found in nearly every part of Europe.
The use of the cross as a symbol in pre-Christian times, and among non-Christian peoples, may probably be regarded as almost universal, and in very many cases it was connected with some form of nature worship. (The Encyclopedia Britannica)
11th ed., 1910, Vol. 7, pg. 506.
The ancient world used many variations of the form of the cross. Did the ancients use the type of cross that is generally used as a symbol of Christianity?
Two of the forms of the pre-Christian cross which are perhaps most frequently met with are the tau cross, so named from its resemblance to the Greek capital letter T, and the svastika or fylfot, also called “Gammadion” owing to its form being that of four Greek capital letters gamma G placed together. The tau cross is a common Egyptian device, and is indeed often called the Egyptian cross. (ibid.)
“The ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic symbol of life—the ankh, a tau cross surmounted by a loop and known as crux ansata—was adopted and extensively used on Coptic Christian monuments.” (The New Encyclopedia Britannica, 15th ed., 1995, Vol. 3, p. 753). The tau form of the cross had been used as a pagan Egyptian symbol and then adopted by “Christians,” called Copts, in Egypt. (A Copt is a member of the traditional Monophysite Christian Church originating and centering in Egypt. A Monophysite is one who adheres to a variation of Gnosticism that teaches that Christ is altogether divine and not human, even though He took on an earthly body.)
One can easily corroborate from history that nominal Christians adopted this pagan symbol as a sign of their religion, even though it had nothing to do with true Christianity.
It was not till the time of Constantine that the cross was publicly used as the symbol of the Christian religion.
As we have seen, an enormous body of evidence proves that the cross is not a Christian symbol but has its roots in rank paganism. Some will argue, however, that we may use the sign of the cross because 1) it represents the manner in which Jesus Christ died, and 2) we are not using it today to worship a pagan deity. However, its use as a Christian symbol is a product of syncretism, that is, the blending of pagan traditions and methods of worship with the true worship of God, something God strongly condemns.
You shall not worship the LORD your God in that way; for every abomination to the LORD which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods. (Deuteronomy 12:30-31)
Does the cross, the sign of Tammuz, truly represent the manner in which Jesus Christ die
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Answer by chiffmonkey
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Grasping at straws.
I’m not reading your copy and paste bullshit.
The cross was plagiarized from Pagan beliefs, for lack of better terms.
The cross is pagan and represents Orion’s belt. Every winter solstice it is in the same position in the sky as the sun. If you could see the night sky in the daytime, you would see the sun in the middle of Orion’s belt. The pre christian Celtic cross is a perfect depiction of it.
Interestingly when I visted ancient Cornwall at the end of last summer while on a cultural exchange. A saw a lot of the ancient crosses had their circles chisled off presumably by christians defacing the Celtic pagan religious symbols.
Christianity is the pagan Mithra Christos religion, wearing a new name. That is why it attacks other pagans at every available opportunity. 🙂
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You lost me at “Hislop”. Alexander Hislop was a crackpot.
St. Thomas: “unless i see in his hands the print of the nailS [plural]” this sums it up. if he did die on a stake, he’d have one nail.
Who is gonna read all of that? lol
It is true, many christian symbols and traditions have been taken from paganism…I heard somewhere that it was to help ease the transition of the people that were being converted to christianity. Since you’ve done some research, I’m sure you know as many of us do, that Jesus was NOT born on December 25. In fact there were MANY who claimed to be the messiah who share the same birthday and manner of death, all the way down to the resurrection. Really makes you think huh? I don’t know what to make of it really. But if you do enough research, the evidence is clear that christianity is merely a mixture of many different beliefs and traditions that came before it. Thus, we have no way of knowing whether or not the cross truly represents the manner in which Jesus Christ died.
Um…. yeah. You like cheeseburgers?
Before the cross, the Israelites looked at a bronze statue of a snake to be saved from the serpeants. Is that a `pagan´´ tradition too?
Bronze snake
Plagued by snakes sent to punish them for their ceaseless complaining, the Israelites were told to look at a bronze statue of a snake to be saved from the serpents. All who looked at the snake lived.
Numbers 21:9
So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, he lived.
My guess is that Alexander Hislop was a charlatan masquerading as a scholar.
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Well, what do you know: My guess was right.
first the t shapes is not complex second
I have question about Alexander Hislop as his writtings would be quite biased
Pagan relic – to be blunt.