Question by Black Christian Scientologist: How could the Hindu Ancients know what Modern Science has just recently determined without instruments?
The Ancient Hindu prophets allegedly wrote that the Earth rests on the backs of four elephants, which stand on the back of a giant turtle, which itself stands on nothing but mud.

These were people who would have to explain what they had determined about the universe in a form that the people of their time would understand.

The elephant was their strongest beast of burden. Therefore they represented some mighty supporting force. Elephants are sentient; that they would consent to stand on a turtle’s back without wandering off implied that something unimaginable (since they are not depicted as being tied up with rope or something) was keeping them in place.

The turtle might be tough enough to support four elephants on its shell and four legs.
It stands in mud which consists of particles fine beyond Human ken to perceive.
The turtle stands on four legs.

Modern Nuclear Physics has said that all existence rests on or consists of Four Entities, which are the Strong Force, the Weak Force. Electromagnetism, and Gravity. These themselves consist of something too fine to be determined by current theory and technology.

The Four Legs of the Four Elephants makes sixteen legs in all.

The Three Generations of Matter- what everything is made up of- consists of:

SIX types of Quarks, EIGHT types of Leptons, and FOUR types of Bosons.

They aren’t evenly distributed among the Four Beasts, but maybe that was as close as the Ancients could get. (Always presuming, of course, that our infallible Modern science can NEVER be wrong!)

Was there a better way for the Ancient Prophets to have explained this?
Don Juan Matus said when Carlos Castaneda showed him the Tibetan Book of the Dead, that their Lamas must have decided that it didn’t matter what they said, so they wrote up a load of nonsense that wasn’t true, because everyone has to *see* for themselves.

One might ask what use Ancients might have of Nuclear Physics.

. SCIENTOLOGY AXIOMS 1-12. L. Ron Hubbard

Life is basically a Static.
Definition: a Life Static has no mass, no motion,
no wavelength, no location in space or in time.
It has the ability to postulate and to perceive.
2. The Static is capable of Considerations, Postulates, and Opinions.
3. Space, Energy, Objects. Form and Time are the result of Considerations
made and/or agreed upon or not by the Static,
and are perceived solely because the Static considers that it can perceive them.
4. Space is a Viewpoint of Dimension.
5. Energy consists of postulated particles in Space.
6. Objects consist of grouped particles and solids.
7. Time is basically a postulate that Space and particles will persist.
8. The apparency of Time is the change of position of particles in space.
9. Change is the primary manifestation of Time.
10. The Highest Purpose in this Universe is the Creation of an Effect.


(a) AS-IS-NESS is the condition of immediate creation without persistence,
and is the condition of existence which exists at the moment of creation
and the moment of destruction, and is different from other considerations
in that it does not contain survival.
(b) ALTER-IS-NESS is the consideration which introduces change
and therefore time and persistence, into an AS-IS-NESS
to obtain persistency.
(c) IS-NESS is an apparency of existence brought about
by the continuous alteration of an AS-IS-NESS.
This is called, when agreed upon, Reality.
(d) NOT-IS-NESS is the effort to handle IS-NESS
by reducing its condition through the use of force.
It is an apparency and cannot entirely vanquish an IS-NESS.
12. The Primary Condition of any Universe is that
two Spaces, Energies, or Objects must not occupy the same Space.
When this condition is violated (Perfect Duplicate)
the Apparency of any Universe or any part thereof is nulled.

(I had originally thought to leave out this concept that also fits into the Four Fundamental Forces Theory that I tried to the “Turtle.”) Well, if you want to multiply five “Big Macs” to feed 5,000 men (besides women and kids), transform water to wine, and instantly heal illnesses and maimed limbs, you would need to know something on this at least this level- don’t you think?

Best answer:

Answer by JESUS IS GOD
The Lord GOD has given me the tongue of those who are taught,
that I may know how to sustain with a word him that is weary.
Morning by morning he wakens, he wakens my ear to hear as those who are taught.
The Lord GOD has opened my ear,
and I was not rebellious, I turned not backward.
I gave my back to the smiters,
and my cheeks to those who pulled out the beard;
I hid not my face from shame and spitting.

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