Question by altex44: How can one believe in religion when there is concrete evidence that the world was created 4.5 billion?
It seems as if people are sucked into religion like they are sucked into cults. People who try to convert people use brainwashing techniques. Bringing children up from childhood, parents give them the mold of their religion. This is why we still have it around. For clarification, I am asking how can one believe that the Earth is 5,000 old or soemthing like that. Where is God? if that is what “its” name is?
How can you believe in your “God” when there are other religions saying that they have their God. Really, if there really was one God, wouldn’t everyone in the world believe in the same religions?
The oldest rock in the world was found to be 3.6 billion years old.
Read any modern Geology book and it says on teh first page the world was created 4.5 billion years old
We are now seeing the effects of Islamic fundamentalism and its effect on children. Children these days are molded without getting a choice and are getting swept in by their “religion” to kill “infidels.” This is what I trying to talk about with cults.
Someone believing in both creationism and evolutionism is like a Democrat that is also a Republican. They are two different things. Most modern scientists do not believe in a God or a deity. If your “God” was so perfect why didn’t he make man to be perfect in his image. Why did he have to create murderers rapists and stealers? Or was that Evolution. Or was Adam and Eve a fairytale? How can Adam have a human for a rib? The creation story seems to be have been a false myth to justify why humans are here.
I read the bible, and it doesn’t seem practical in modern times. When they created the religion they could not see that we are not the center of the universe. They did not know that we were not the only planet out in the universe. If someone formed a religion like Christianity in this day in age they would be sent to an insane asylum. I am not saying that Christians should be sent there. In this day in age there are much more theories that the Earth is formed through the explosion of materials creating the universe. Earth is just a rock that was formed out of the explosion. Humans evolved about 100,000 years ago that is known because of bones we have found. how come religion only came into existence onl y 5,000 years ago? Look I know most of you won’t change your minds about this but people seemed to have what I call the “religious brainwashing effect” where people are forced to receive propaganda and forced to realize a false diety. Religion is just using propaganda to serve a higher
purpose. How can God create such flawed people?
Again, the concrete evidence that the world was created 4.5 billion years ago is from radiometric dating. Also the years are found in rocks, the oldest rock is 3.6 billion years old. If that is not evidence I don’t know what is.
If there was even a God, explain the different religions, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism. IF there was a God wouldn’t he have created everyone? Not just their people.
The last response I really enjoyed reading. I liked the major points on inflexibility. One can be very inflexible such as a fundamentalist, a scientist or religous. And they are not open to any sort of chat with each other. Therefore now stating that most people who are inflexible are indeed brainwashed themselves. I never thought of it that way. One has to accept criticisms and deal with them, not ignore them to the death. As with different devout faiths, they have ignored the criticisims and are brainwashed into thinking that it’s their way or no way.
The last response I really enjoyed reading. I liked the major points on inflexibility. One can be very inflexible such as a fundamentalist, a scientist or religous. And they are not open to any sort of chat with each other. Therefore now stating that most people who are inflexible are indeed brainwashed themselves. I never thought of it that way. One has to accept criticisms and deal with them, not ignore them to the death. As with different devout faiths, they have ignored the criticisims and are brainwashed into thinking that it’s their way or no way.
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Answer by Some Dude
You know that it is possible to believe in an old Earth and evolution AND God?
Give your answer to this question below!
Whats the concrete evidence? Everything out there is just a bunch of theories, and granted theories are pretty solid but not concrete.
Religion gives people a sense of belonging. I personally don’t believe there is any right one or any wrong one.
Treading on thin Ice 101. You obviously have not experienced Christ. When you do….. you know. Have you tried? Or have you just pushed God away? Try “it!’ You might like “it.”
Faith! Isn’t faith believing all power can’t be seen?
You pose an excellent question. I guess people in this world are generally scared and believing in a higher being helps them feel that their lives aren’t so unpredictable. I do agree that some religions are like brain washing cults. It is really sad too that the children get sucked in before they even have a chance to have a choice! Like last week I went to a Nine Inch Nails concert and outside the arena were two men and two small boys screaming at everyone waiting to get inside. Screaming the “word of God.” Apparently because I am a fan of Trent Reznor I am going to hell! That just galls me. These poor little kids that have never even known what it’s like to be in the real world and they are already preaching to others! OK-sorry for the babbling, but I don’t think there is any one answer for your question!
Man has always had a weakenss. When he watches a movie, he always want the hero of the movie to win, he never wants him to loose. Man actually tries to associate himself with the hero. So man called some “GOD” and gave him the status of a HERO, so that he could associate himself with something perfect and ideal, that he looked up to that HERO to solve all his problems.In the old days, there were many civilizations and they never used to interact with one another, so they built up theese “gods” and created “religions”, but if you look closely you see that all the underlying principles of theese religions are basically the same.The most important principle is “LOVE”. Every religeon asks us to love our fellow men. If we understand this principle of Universal love, then i think we have understood the phenomenon called “GOD”.Religion is a parthway to understanding god or actually the principle of oneness of the entire universe. And regarding your question on earth being 5000 years old, there is fossil eveidence for that.
I have asked that same question to my grandfather (a baptist preacher), and he told me that believing in anything other than what is stated in the bible is a sin, a pagan sin to be exact. I believe in dinosaurs, cavemen, and evolution. There is evidence that is rock solid that has been present in museums for at least a century. I do believe in a higher power but not what most Christians call “God”, yet ANOTHER THEORY which had been shoved down my throat for some 20 odd years. I still attend church for my children because they do need something to believe in but I do not go for myself. What ever my children believe in, I will support. and if they follow my example, I will also support that too. But I refuse to do to them what was done to me as a child. We all choose what we believe in.
Religion: The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
A person can make a religion out of almost anything.
Religion is not a matter of how the world was created, but who has created it. I can be a evolucionist and a Christian. If you take the first chapter of Genesis and read with a non prejudice eyes you will see some congruencies with science.
To start…Christ said to his followers ” In my Father’s kingdom. One day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day” At that time a thousand was a very,very large number. A thousand years was concidered a millinium. Millinium meaning where time comes full circle. The end meets the beginning.
So 4.5 billion or 5,000 years. Time is not relavent.
The 5,000 years could mean 5 milliniums. 5 “full circle” time periods.
If you believe in Noah and the great flood? Who’s to say it didn’t happen 5,000 years ago. And that would be the part of time we are living in.
God is God. Most religions(that have one God) are referring to the same God.
God by any other name is still God.
One difference in Muslims and Christians are the way they were formed.
During the decline of the Roman empire while the state was pulling back it’s bounderies because they couldn’t support a large empire.
One guy decided to take advantage of the situation of no local Roman garrison to keep order and went around and told the ,now unprotected,masses. Believe in my religion or die.
Now..if you read history about the birth and evolution of Christianity. It basically did it it with no violent force. More as word of mouth and example. It spread quite effectively this way. It was not until a Christian got political power was the Roman Empire changed to the Holy Roman Empire. Which meaned Christian. Since Rome still had most of it’s interest in the Europe regeion. Europe became predominantly Christian. And since Rome pull it’s interest out of the Middle East region. It became Muslin. Due to the fact the only reconing force was a bunch of thugs running around and telling you to convert or die. And they basically still do this today.
If you want to compare religions. You see all factions of the Christian faith living side by side with no problem. (To each his own).
Go to a Muslim state. All factions are at war with each other.
About the only reasonable faction of Muslims are the Surbs. If the world wants peace I would suggest to reunite Surbia back to pre WWII status.
This is gettig off track.
If you watch the History channels. You will see alot of programs trying to make the Bible something that should not be considered as truth. A “liberal” attempt to say the Bible was writen by men from hearsay stories and put together by men who didn’t want the whole story out. To take the Bible as just a literary production and not a guide.
This is an attempt to totally take God out of society.
To say…” If the Bible is not the truth? Then you can not say anything of Christianity is true.”
Which leaves the state as the only power. Which goes back to the “Ancient Rome” mode of existance.
(Back to the millinium.)
And too much religion involved in the state? Look at the Middle East.
>>Where is God? if that is what “its” name is?<< God's name is "GOD". He even told Moses that he had no,human, name. Where is God? You will have to look deep into yourself to find that answer.
LOOK maybe you have asked this question alot and you havent got a good answer just try this for a second, look i am 15 years old in april 6 i have been in church all my life, in different kinds catholic cristian and more..i had the same question as u,look i read the bible myself (the original one)holy bible, and well i saw all the wrong things that most churches have, and with all my heart in the name of Jeuscrist im going to tell u read the bible and figure out by yourself, how can you belive in air if u dont see it? but u feel it right? yes same way with Jesus we cant see him but we feel him we kno he lives because we ask him to help us in something and he helps us, with just by giving us the air we breath he helps, look science always is going to say the bible was invented by smart man thats it its not TRUE! but when all he predictions from the bible happens remember me my name is lily i wish you would plez email me my email is ritz4feet@yahoo.com look plz listen at of all these answers plz answer me, a wish 2 talk to you soon i dont want to write to much now, but plz write back plz. God loves you with all his heart he died for us in the cross, i recomned a cristian church for more info about the truth plz write back! God bless
plenty of scientists (including Einstein) believe in both.
You do know that once upon a time there was also concrete evidence that the sun revolved around the earth. or that the earth was flat. People, humans as a whole need to believe that there is something more out there that is bigger than simply living and dying.
concrete evidence? really? such as?
I don’t think it is difficult to answer your question. First of all the Bible is a condensed version of spiritual events, written by men inspired of God.
We do not have any concept of eternal time and we also don’t know how long Adam and Eve were in the Garden before they were cast out. Time wasn’t kept track of while they were in the garden. We can not have any concept of that because we just don’t know.
It also says that in the creation there was unorganized matter, they took that unorganized matter and made it into this beautiful world in which we live in. The age of that matter is unknown. But would explain why there are some things that date back 4.5 billion years ago. Not everything can or will be explained but maybe I gave you some food for thought.
As to why God created such flawed people? It’s called he gave us agency. He is not a God who will force us to do anything. He wants us to come to him of our own free will.
There is no one god, no argument with that. Does it prove that every single other claim by any religious system is false? Not necessarily. All the flaws you pointed out refer only to the axiom of single omnipotent entity. How about the collective of entitites who created the universe together, without actually creating the man, at least not intentionally? Just a suggestion, no brainwashing intended here.
Some people have taken the modern science as a god of its own, and refer to it just as religiously as Muslims to their
god. I suppose this god has to be more benign, but that is not the point. How was Stonehenge built? The Pyramids?
What happened a single second before the big bang? To my mind, science doesn’t give satisfactory answers to those questions because it is intent on the materialistic view, rejecting the interactions of several kinds of energies.
Scientific assumptions are not invalid, they are just, in my opinion, part of the greater whole, of the science that encompasses everything that has been discovered, and more.
In the same way, I can see a seed of wisdom in certain religions, without accepting them as the whole truth.
To me, any inflexible outlook on the world, being totally monetheistic, or totally scientific, is inaccurate. Binary thinking, black versus white, is a the kids thinking mode. Adults ought to realize the world is more complex than that. And yes, there can be a Democrate who is a Republican. I would probably vote for such, because he would share some of the Republican opinions that I welcome, and some of the Democratic ones, that I would approve of.
(Our problem is that there is no such person currently, we always choose one extreme or the other). T.S. Elliot said it’s a property of the brilliant mind to contain two contradictory notions at the same time. At the same time, this is my own addition, inability to do so, is the trait of the younger mind. Not a worse one, just a younger one.
The fundamentalistic view of the Muslims is based on their inability to operate with complex notions. It is all about
us versus the enemy, even if “us” happen to abuse us. Good versus bad, “we” being the good of course. And so on. Brainwashing is easier accomplished when the mind decids it wants simple explanations to anything, and is too rigid to accept any other. In main stream religions, Muslims are guilty of it more than most, no matter what the politically correct approach says. But they are not the only ones. Communists, Atheists, Democrates and other monotheistic religions are just as guilty of it, and there are many other kinds of thinking categorically.
The point is, don’t dismiss everything, just because one crucial point of their creed fails. Or else, you’re being just as inflexible in your mode of thinking as they’re in theirs. Would you reject all mysteries of the world just because God doesn’t exist? Would you believe in science as blindy as they believe in their god? What is then the difference between you? Are scientists not real people? Don’t they write their dissertations to prove what they intend to prove? How many of them can be completely, inhamanly, objective when one of their baby projects is challenged? Some of them have simply different techniques of brainwashing. If they decide the string theory is looking good, how many scientific publications would be allowed that claim differently? How different are some of them from the preaching pastors? Just food for thought, no attempt to convert, I don’t really have anything to convert you to. LOL.
Science attempts to prove that this earth is far older than the years accounted in the recorded history of the Holy Bible. Science finds specimens which they claim are millions of years older than earth’s history recorded in God’s Word. Science concludes, then, that God’s Word is not literally true (Thy word is true from the beginning: . . . Ps.119.160 below).
What science does show (if the scientific measurements are accurate) is that God created upon this earth PRIOR TO Genesis 1:1-31, 2:1-3.
God destroyed all prior creation (Gen.1:2) to bring forth man created in God’s likeness (Gen.1:26), with an UNBROKEN lineage beginning with Adam.
God will create again – a new heaven and a new earth (Re.21:1, Isa.65:17) after the Millennium, after the battle of Gog and Magog (Re.20:7-10).
I conclude that nothing of God’s prior creation survived to give man the lineage of apes. We begin with Adam and Eve, as it is written.
Ps.119:160 Thy word [is] true [from] the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments [endureth] for ever.
Pat (ndbpsa ©)
the evidence isnt concrete get me a photo or avidio of it happening and a person who saw it to tell me thmselves the big bang and all of that stuff is all just theories but there is sort of concrete evidence we came from mars on a meteor as chemicals