Jul 252013

Question by Jayden’s ♥mommy♥: Does the idea that the universe exists for the conscious observer have some scientific merit?
I’m talking as either an intelligent being created the universe *for* us, or we are in some kind of computer simulation.
I also would like your own interpretations, outside of what the religion says is preferable, though religious opinions are good answers too, just insert some independent thought if you can.
(props to BlueSkies)

Best answer:

Answer by Alexis
There is no evidence to suggest this.

That doesn’t necessarily mean that it *isn’t* true. But there’s no reason to believe there is.

Add your own answer in the comments!

  8 Responses to “Does the idea that the universe exists for the conscious observer have some scientific merit?”

  1. You would be at home an Mars Hill with Paul where they endlessly discussed this idea and that of who was God?

    The Apostle Paul told the Athenians on Mars’ Hill that we are “the offspring of God” (Acts 17:29). Since we know that our physical bodies are the offspring of our mortal parents, we must probe for the meaning of Paul’s statement. The Lord has declared that “the spirit and the body are the soul of man” (D&C 88:15). It is the spirit which is the offspring of God. The writer of Hebrews refers to Him as “the Father of spirits” (Heb. 12:9). The spirits of all men are literally His “begotten sons and daughters” (D&C 76:24).

  2. No. If you wish to suggest any of those factless “ideas”, please present your *objective evidence* for them.

    No evidence offered ? Factless claims totally fail.

  3. Read “The Twelfth Planet” by Zecharia Sitchin for an interesting theory.

  4. Although I’m not a scientist, I believe that the science of quantum physics has some of the scientific answers you may be seeking.

    I believe that we are all one and we created the Universe “for” us in order to create “experience”. That’s all we’re here to do. It’s more like a dream than a computer simulation. We are all physical incarnations of a small part of a vast consciousness that is All There Is. Our experiences in physical form are unique and shared with the whole. When we’re done with this form, we reincarnate in another set of circumstances for another set of experiences.

  5. All this solar system and galaxy was created after the earth.This because they are the components of the engine that cause the earth to spin and wauble.Study Genesis the first chapter.There is taught the big bang and the beginnings of the laws of physics.The BIBLE is a science book and history book. THANK YOU D’S

  6. Is 4 billion years a long time?
    People tend to forget that, at least here on Earth, intelligent conscious observers are a very recent development. Until then, the universe existed quite well for a very very very long time without us.

    Imagine if we (the human race), the intelligent observer, never manages to leave the solar system. All those millions of beautiful waterfalls and sunsets on billions of planets will exist with never a conscious observer to experience them. No, this isn’t a computer simulation for conscious observers. The universe exists anyway.

  7. Thanks. :) It’s an interesting theory, and related to quantum theory. It does have scientific merit, but some people discard it offhand because it sounds too much like creationism.

    From a recent issue of Discover magazine – a respected science publication. This is from an interview with Robert Lanza, a physician and scientist whose work primarily involves cell replacement, generating new organs and curing a number of diseases. The part I’m quoting for you is about his theory on the universe, however.

    < RL: … I’ll tell you, putting the puzzle together is not trivial, but after two years I had a new theory of the universe. Q: Your book about that work, called Biocentrism, cowritten with astronomer Bob Berman, will be out soon. In it you propose that our current theories of the universe will never work unless they account for life and consciousness. Can you explain? RL: Look at this coffee cup. You say it’s right there, but the truth of the matter is you can’t see that through your brain. Your brain has a bone around it. What is happening is that what you see is reconstructed in your mind. We have these word space and time, but you can’t touch them. They’re not objects, they’re not things, they go forever. Space and time are really tools of animal sense perception, the way we organize and construct information. Q: You have suggested that reality is determined by the conscious observer. Most physicists view consciousness as an accident. RL: There was a paper published in Science this February, and what it showed was that if you do an experiment with a photon, put it in the apparatus, that what you do right now actually changes an event that already occurred in the past. Now isn’t that bizarre? That is the same universe you and I are in. How can the physics in this experiment actually show that if you do something right now it retroactively changes an event that has already happened? You can play your little games with it, but any way you cut the pie, if you observe something it acts as a particle, and if you don’t it acts as a wave. It is not an artifact of the system. Those experiments are real. Get over it. Q: You’ve said physical laws are exactly balanced for life to exist. RL: If there were one-billionth of a difference in the mass of the Big Bang, you couldn’t have galaxies. If the gravitational constant were ever-so-slightly different, you couldn’t have stars, including the sun, and you would just have hydrogen. There are 200 parameters like this. We now have people out there talking about an intelligent design, saying that “God” is the explanation. But it is really because quantum theory is right: Everything is observer-determined and the past and present are relative only to you, as the observer. It all fits, but the problem is, you then need to accept what people will not accept: When you turn your back on the moon, it no longer exists. >

  8. fascinating question.

    i believe the universe IS the conscious observer, and we’re its sensory system. i don’t think there will ever be any scientific proof of this, it transcends scientific knowledge.

    so, i guess computer simulation is the closest analogy.

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